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===Hash the eppn===
===Hash the eppn===
Another possibility would be to hash the eppn (not eptid) to create a persistent and opaque account ID string for republishing within EGI.  If we did this, we would need to agree the same hashing alg and optionally securely share a salt value to all different SPs within the infrastructure to calculate the same hash string. This currently looks like <b>the preferred option</b>.
Another possibility would be to hash the eppn (not eptid) to create a persistent and opaque account ID string for republishing within EGI.  If we did this, we would need to agree the same hashing alg and optionally securely share a salt value to all different SPs within the infrastructure to calculate the same hash string.
   
   



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Use of eppn in EGI

Data Privacy and Code of Conduct Policy Document Under Construction: GOCDB/data_privacy


Hi Ops/all,

Apologies for the lengthy text:

With the plans to include federated identity, sevices like GocDB will need to use an attribute supplied by an IdP to create/identify a user account, usually either ‘eduPersonPrincipleName’ (eppn) or ‘eduPersonTargetedID’ (eptid). These attributes will be used instead of an x509 DN and will require changes to the output of the PI, changing CERTDN element to PRINCIPAL element in queries like get_user and get_site_contacts - GocDB needs to republish these attributes in its PI for use by the rest of the infrastructure (e.g. queried by Ops portal, used in accounting and so on).

Now, according to the rules of the UK Access Fed (similar rules apply in other feds), “The Service Provider must not disclose to third parties any Attributes other than to any data processor of the service provider or where the relevant end user has give its prior informed consent to such disclosure. see [note2]” . (Where [note2] states: “The basic Rule is that attributes may only be used by the service requested by the user and only for the specified purposes. Service Providers that wish to use attributes in other ways (for example to provide direct user support) can arrange this either by obtaining positive informed consent from each individual End User, or by contract with Identity Providers who are then responsible for informing their End User.”)

Therefore, to use Attributes like the eppn in EGI we need to obtain ‘positive informed consent’ from the user that we can publish and make visible their data/eppn to authenticated users and client-services of GOCDB, including those trusted by UK Access Management Federation, EGI-SSO or IGTF (I think we must explicitly state the different authentication/trust realms, e.g. any person/host with a valid IGTF cert can query the GocDB API for this info).

  • Q. Any experts out there know if the sample notification/approval-dialog shown in the screen grab below provides adequate positive consent?
  • Q. Assuming user clicks OK, do you know if there are any issues for EGI and for the hosting institution (STFC) in re-publishing the eppn in the PI? (it then becomes readable to any other service/user who has a valid IGTF cert)
    • Update 20/08/2015: Re-publishing the eppn looks like a no-go: The SP needs to first take account of each/every IdP's policy on whether the eppn can be reused. This is not extensible.


ePTID

Instead of using an eppn, GocDB could use the ‘eduPersonTargetedID’ (eptid) and re-publish that in the PI – the eptid is less of a security concern because its anonymous/opaque. However, since the eptid will be different for the same user across different SAML Service Providers, this provides little use when there is requirement to identify a particular accountID across different SPs and organisations (this is the EGI requirement). Note, if EGI had a single centralised/proxy IdP, it could be used to re-issue the same eptid consistently to all the underlying EGI services/systems. I think this would be far preferable compared to services individually registering with federations and receiving different eptids per service.

Hash the eppn

Another possibility would be to hash the eppn (not eptid) to create a persistent and opaque account ID string for republishing within EGI. If we did this, we would need to agree the same hashing alg and optionally securely share a salt value to all different SPs within the infrastructure to calculate the same hash string.


  • Q. Is something like this the longer term plan? If possible, I think it would be best to decide how we do this now to save complexities down the road.

I’d be grateful for any thoughts/guidance on these matters.

Cheers,

David

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