100928 DMSU Weekly Assigner Meeting
(14:08:43) Michael Grønager: so we should be able to just start (14:09:37) Michael Grønager: I expect that to be an october timeframe task - i.e. by November 1st all tickets have a expected ttf attached to them (14:10:10) Ales Krenek: I've already strated ;-) -- just want to consult the overlap with INFN (14:10:45) Michael Grønager: ales: great - however, I think that Alessandro is on vacation this week... (14:11:52) Michael Grønager: OK then to the open tickets... (14:11:53) Ales Krenek: OK, I'll send him an explicit request via email (14:12:00) Michael Grønager: ales: super (14:12:29) Michael Grønager: we have 2 new: 62435 and 387 (14:13:24) Michael Grønager: APEL is INFN, right ? (14:13:36) Ales Krenek: CESNET, AFAIK (14:13:41) Michael Grønager: OK :-) (14:13:52) Michael Grønager: It seems quite straight forward... (14:15:28) Michael Grønager: It seems however, to be a clear APEL ticket, that should go to the APEL team, with a TTF request (14:16:29) epaisios: Sorry I'm late (14:16:43) Ales Krenek: Eventually, it can be broken up into several requests -- yaim etc. (14:16:49) Michael Grønager: better late than never - I thought you were on vacation... (14:17:34) Ales Krenek: Btw, is there a TTF field in GGUS? So that we can search for due tickets ... (14:17:35) Michael Grønager: Ales, yes, get your point - I trust it to be in safe hands ;-) (14:18:08) Michael Grønager: I thought of using the Please send reminder on <date> field (14:18:15) Michael Grønager: and note the ttf in the text (14:20:06) Michael Grønager: moving to 62435 (14:20:12) Michael Grønager: globus-job-run (14:20:44) Michael Grønager: I think this is in principle a globus ticket... (14:21:01) Ales Krenek: I don't think so -- its glite packaging (14:21:05) Michael Grønager: however, it is labelled as glite, and it depends what policy we prefer when it comes to globus (14:21:38) Michael Grønager: if emi aims for harmonizing, it would be good to have one unified source for globus-job-run (14:21:41) epaisios: they mention that it concern glite 3.2 ui (14:21:53) Ales Krenek: IMHO it is a result of the glite cleanup (14:22:02) Michael Grønager: as globus-job-run is globus-UI and not glite (14:22:29) Ales Krenek: there used to be a big globus client package installed at glite-UI, while the current version install only minimal libraries & commands. (14:22:44) Michael Grønager: (agree with you both), however, I would prefer to keep it out of 3.2, but to be able to direct to user towards another package for globus-job-run usage (14:23:00) Michael Grønager: Ales, and I guess that is good, isn (14:23:01) Michael Grønager: t it (14:23:04) Michael Grønager: ? (14:23:14) Ales Krenek: yes, but it's just the tip of the iceberg (14:23:24) Michael Grønager: agree... (14:23:24) Ales Krenek: there is a lot of globus inside glite UI (14:23:44) Ales Krenek: one cannot take just globus-run from another distribution without a big risk of libraries clash (14:24:15) Michael Grønager: agree - and this is where the harmonization part of EMI will stand its first challenge (14:24:28) Ales Krenek: yes, but it will take a while ... (14:24:34) Michael Grønager: yes ;-) (14:24:59) Ales Krenek: we should suggest the ticket requestor to install an additional globus package, (14:25:00) Michael Grønager: first step could be to support packagingwise to have multiple installations without a clash (14:25:10) Michael Grønager: yes (14:25:21) Ales Krenek: coming from a matching distribution (14:25:54) Ales Krenek: what you say is the "gathered experience" input DMSU should provide to the mw providers (14:26:00) Michael Grønager: and then create a ticket for EMI requesting their policy on this... - I guess the ticket should also be copied to IGE (14:26:31) Michael Grønager: yes (14:26:34) epaisios: that would be good (14:27:18) Michael Grønager: OK - I can create those tickets, and assign them to EMI and IGE(and if not IGE exists I will assign it to ggus with a request of a IGE unit) (14:27:40) Michael Grønager: would it be best to just duplicate the ticket twice ? (14:28:05) epaisios: could we use involve others? (14:28:44) Ales Krenek: As for the original ticket -- I'll talk to the glite-UI maintainers to check which is the right vdt package to install. (14:28:50) Michael Grønager: we could, but the solution to the user would be, as ales suggested to install another package (14:28:57) Michael Grønager: ales, yes (14:29:26) Michael Grønager: so the policy for globus is just something we see as a general problem that we need an answer to (14:31:20) Michael Grønager: OK - no more new tickets (14:31:38) Michael Grønager: and I don't have more to add - I will upload the transcripts to the wiki (14:31:41) Michael Grønager: AOB? (14:34:28) Ales Krenek: Do you plan someting during the SA2 meeting Michel is organizing at OGF? (14:35:56) Michael Grønager: I havn't considered it yet (14:36:21) Michael Grønager: but I would like to mention something about DMSU at the meeting - and e.g. present our TTF cleaning effort (14:36:39) Michael Grønager: and mention some of the problems like the globus policy one (14:36:46) Ales Krenek: I'm not sure what is the exact purpose and agenda of the meeting, I just know it's there (14:37:09) Michael Grønager: The main purpose is a follow up on the software release procedure (14:37:25) Michael Grønager: involving all the other taskleaders in SA2 but the DMSU one (14:37:43) Michael Grønager: but some other ideas might hit us anyway...